aligning coronations with Darkshore

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Should Darkshore be a coronation event for all lands?

Poll ended at Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:00 am

Yes! Adjust the reign to May to November to facilitate coronation events being held at Darkshore. Westmarch would have an independent event in November.
28
82%
No! Keep the Westmarch reign running from March - September. Organize and establish independent Westmarch events.
5
15%
No! Develop another option.
1
3%
 
Total votes : 34

Re: aligning coronations with Darkshore

Postby Laoric » Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:25 pm

Keluric wrote:Eliminating executions will speed things up considerably :)


This is true, but if you look at the length of court at Darkshore 2008 it was still fairly long, in spite of attempts to consolidate it (Deimos did a good job of being brief but entertaining). Having the entire court done on Saturday could hurt.

Then again, I'm sure the collective monarchies can look at what they have in front of them and just play it by ear. There's no real reason we need to have a rule about any of this.
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Re: aligning coronations with Darkshore

Postby Keluric » Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:14 am

Laoric wrote:Then again, I'm sure the collective monarchies can look at what they have in front of them and just play it by ear.


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Re: aligning coronations with Darkshore

Postby 2.0 » Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:29 am

Keluric wrote:Eliminating executions will speed things up considerably :)
as well as putting a stop to great sword sunderings
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Re: aligning coronations with Darkshore

Postby Fiks » Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:56 pm

Please, won't you take a moment in your busy lives to think of the poor great swords?
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Re: aligning coronations with Darkshore

Postby Keluric » Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:36 pm

2.0 wrote:
Keluric wrote:Eliminating executions will speed things up considerably :)
as well as putting a stop to great sword sunderings


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Re: aligning coronations with Darkshore

Postby sirnakita » Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:15 pm

Would it be better for some lands to retain their current reign schedule and just move WM's reign to make Darkshore a coronation event? Also, there will potentially be lands who do not have enough members willing to travel that may not want to hold their coronations at Darkshore.

Just some thoughts.

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Re: aligning coronations with Darkshore

Postby Fiks » Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:33 pm

That has always been each land's option. From my limited experience though, and only speaking from my limited observations, it appears that the lands love having their courts at Darkshore.

ninja edit: I mean, not only do you get to share your gathered accomplishments in front of your land's fellows, but 100+ other folks as well. That's a cool feeling, I think.
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Re: aligning coronations with Darkshore

Postby Orion » Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:58 pm

sirnakita wrote:Would it be better for some lands to retain their current reign schedule and just move WM's reign to make Darkshore a coronation event? Also, there will potentially be lands who do not have enough members willing to travel that may not want to hold their coronations at Darkshore.
Just some thoughts.Nakita


I totally agree with Nakita on this, even though most of the monarchy this upcoming reign will most likely be at darkshore; the rest of the land will probably stay at home.
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Re: aligning coronations with Darkshore

Postby Laoric » Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:36 pm

Orion wrote:
sirnakita wrote:Would it be better for some lands to retain their current reign schedule and just move WM's reign to make Darkshore a coronation event? Also, there will potentially be lands who do not have enough members willing to travel that may not want to hold their coronations at Darkshore.
Just some thoughts.Nakita


I totally agree with Nakita on this, even though most of the monarchy this upcoming reign will most likely be at darkshore; the rest of the land will probably stay at home.


Obviously you guys should fix that. :P

On a serious note, as a former Wavehavener, I can likely say that having Darkshore as a coronation for Westmarch and not for Wavehaven would be kinda bass ackwards. I think we should just come to terms with the fact that we're a fairly large group now and we'll have to deal with these growing pains.
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Re: aligning coronations with Darkshore

Postby Keluric » Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:37 pm

I heartily agree, we need to adjust to having more folks involved in court, but that is part of the growing pains of a large entity, such as Westmarch.

I believe with concerted effort and some prep from the monarchs involved with court at a joint coronation, things can run smoothly and efficiently.
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Re: aligning coronations with Darkshore

Postby sirnakita » Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:18 pm

If I am understanding the issue correctly, each land (including Westmarch) would have the option of changing the reign to make Darkshore a coronation event. If memory serves, Wavehaven changed its reign to coincide with Westmarch's. If there were to be a change in WM's reign, I am sure at least some other lands would also make changes to their reign schedules.

In addition, matching reign schedules would help with qualifications. If other lands have different schedules, then it would be difficult to coordinate a larger Quals day. While this also makes Quals more time consuming, it also is another excuse for groups to intermingle. If the reign schedules are different, then it would complicate holding a multi-group Quals. Just another thing to think about...

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Re: aligning coronations with Darkshore

Postby Laoric » Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:16 am

sirnakita wrote:If I am understanding the issue correctly, each land (including Westmarch) would have the option of changing the reign to make Darkshore a coronation event. If memory serves, Wavehaven changed its reign to coincide with Westmarch's. If there were to be a change in WM's reign, I am sure at least some other lands would also make changes to their reign schedules.

In addition, matching reign schedules would help with qualifications. If other lands have different schedules, then it would be difficult to coordinate a larger Quals day. While this also makes Quals more time consuming, it also is another excuse for groups to intermingle. If the reign schedules are different, then it would complicate holding a multi-group Quals. Just another thing to think about...

Nakita


The Corpora requires that all the lands operate on the same schedule. If we were to set it up where each land could have their own reign rotation we would need to change the Corpora.
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Re: aligning coronations with Darkshore

Postby sirnakita » Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:11 am

I guess I must have missed that section. Could you please point to the specific section?

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Re: aligning coronations with Darkshore

Postby Keluric » Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:53 pm

ARTICLE VI: CROWN QUALIFICATIONS
Section 1. GENERAL INFORMATION
1. All candidates for the offices of Monarch, Regent, Champion, and Heir Apparent must earn a qualifying score (“qual”) in
a certain number of categories in a cultural contest known as Crown Qualifications (“Crown Quals”, “quals”).
2. Crown Qualifications will be held once every six (6) months, at least one (1) week prior to crown elections.
a. One land shall host the Confederacy Crown Qualifications, on a rotating schedule.
i. Core lands shall host Confederacy Crown Qualifications on a rotating schedule from North to South.
ii. After all lands have hosted Crown Qualifications the cycle will start over.
iii. Any land has the option to skip their turn hosting Qualifications. Then the next land in line will host.
b. Each sub-land may host its own Crown Qualifications on the same weekend.
c. Qualifying at the Confederacy Qualifications also qualifies a candidate at the local level.


Gwendair found this section which pertains (see point "b"), but does not literally state that they must be on the same schedule. It does imply that the schedules would be the same, otherwise the statement would be unworkable. I think if a vote were put forth to change coronations, each land would be getting their voice on the matter at that time. The only problem would arise around if one, or more, lands did not want to align.
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Re: aligning coronations with Darkshore

Postby Laoric » Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:07 pm

My biggest problem with splitting up the coronations is that it may reduce inter-land travel. For example, if Westmarch and Falcon's Reach have a joint Coronation, and then 4 weeks later Wavehaven has their's and then SSD is after that, it will be hard for people to make it all of these events, which will diminish both Westmarch's event and all the other land's events as well.

Otherwise I don't see many problems with it.
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